I've noticed this issue for some time but now would be a great time to finally address it. Song intro paragraphs, mostly for original songs, aren't entirely consistent. I realize the preload template was part of the problem and that has been fixed (more matches the cover song intros). Three basic, correct examples for original songs include "The Wall," "Getting Lucky," and "We Ain't Got That" (songs split into multiple parts).
I'm hoping we can work together in correcting this neglecting issue. Variation in more complex song intros is understandable (the above is mainly connected to the simpler intros), but if there are any questions/concerns over these, please post below. Thanks!
Update: Cover song formatting is detailed in #2 (& #16) while original song formatting may change slightly and be further detailed, on discussion to closer match cover formatting, after cover songs are finished.
Turns out cover songs have a different set of issues. Other than some minor consistency issues, the current style of the intro paragraph could give a little confusion (eg. comma use). To solve these cover issues, I crafted the following examples.
"I Love A Rainy Night" is a song originally performed by Eddie Rabbitt that is covered by The Chipmunks, first released as a single in 1981. The song is also included in the album Urban Chipmunk but varies dependent on the release: the 1981 LP version is sung by just The Chipmunks while the 1993 CD version is sung by The Chipmunks featuring Dave Seville.
"All I Want For Christmas (Is My Two Front Teeth)" is a song originally performed by Spike Jones & His City Slickers that is covered by Theodore Seville, featuring Dave Seville, in multiple Christmas albums listed below.
The intros also seem to be inconsistent on how to credit Dave when he is present in a song. I've seen them say "by The Chipmunks and David Seville", "by The Chipmunks featuring David Seville", and I've seen intros just ignore his presence altogether. The intros are also inconsistent in how they write his name, alternating between "David Seville", "Dave Seville", and just "Dave".
I'd suggest using "by The Chipmunks featuring Dave Seville" as the standard, as that is the name of his link and seems to be the most common usage.
Though actually, in the context of your format, it would probably be better to write "by The Chipmunks, featuring Dave Seville, in the album...", as that would be more grammatically correct.
Again, I'd appreciate you not going off and making edits to these pages without discussing your disagreements (or changes) first (do realize I do not like repeating myself). I'd rather these edits be made once and not waste my time.
I'm not sure if you are aware but not every instance of David Seville refers to the character. Ross Bagdasarian, Sr.'s stage name was David Seville and these instances shouldn't be changed to Dave Seville.
You also changed intros for original songs, which have their own slightly different structure as seen above, and violated our MOS (quotes in the article space are italicized). Slow your roll and take one step at a time.
I wasn't referring to any song by Bagdasarian Sr. I was referring only to songs released by Bagdasarian Jr. I should have clarified that when I posted.
As for going off on my own and wasting your time, since I didn't touch any of the songs released by Bagdasarian Sr. (in fact I only touched the songs from a single album; Urban Chipmunk), the changes I made were to align them with the format you recommended (in the case of "I Love A Rainy Night" I copied from you word-for-word), and the only one of my edits you actually changed was the one about the italics, I'm not entirely sure what you're complaining about right now.
I didn't know that quotes were supposed to be italicized though, so I'll apologize for that.
And by the way, all of your formatting examples were for covers. If you're going to criticise me for not realizing that original songs are formatted slightly differently, maybe you can actually explain their formatting first.
The "wasting my time" comment was directed at you making edits that vary from the plan that I would have to correct later on (further into the future). You did, in fact, edit my original formatting without discussion, even if it was minor, and I had to change it in my second post above. If this happened when a hundred or so pages were done, then indeed time would have been wasted. I'm trying to correct the situation early on, before making article edits, as I like to iron out the details prior to large batches of edits.
The start of this thread was direct strictly to originals (the three linked examples are for original formatting) though there were some overarching statements that could possibly have lead to confusion. The second post, however, did specify cover songs and not originals.
Ah. You mean "included" vs "featured". I guess that was another thing I did without really thinking about it. Now that you mention it, I do prefer that wording to how it's worded in "The Gambler". As for other changes, I can't really think of anything I would recommend at the moment. I'm not the greatest at thinking of solutions to problems I haven't encountered yet. I guess all I can do is cross my fingers and hope we've covered everything, or that you can think of anything I've missed.
Great. Anticipating problems is one of the benefits of pausing to plan ahead. We won't get everything but at least we aren't likely to need to do much additional reediting.
If you can, in the edit summary please link back to this thread (if you don't know how insert [[Thread:24502|Standardizing intro]]). If you encounter a page that doesn't match an example, discuss it here.
Actually, I was wondering about something. Several of the songs included in the album Here's Looking At Me had dialogue present in their original recordings that were removed for the album. I was wondering how we should handle that. Currently, one such intro (after accounting for the new format) is written like this:
Okay, to throw it out there, modified versions/songs/lyrics are a complicated issue (likely falling into the arena of varying slightly). There are modifications to the original (non-chipmunk) song (such as "Goodbye to You") as well as those to different versions.
"Leader of the Pack" (no punctuation after that in article titles)
A modified version, with the dialogue removed, is also included in the album Here's Looking at Me!
"Achy Breaky Heart"
The song is also included in the album Chipmunks in Low Places and, as a modified version, with the dialogue removed, in the albums The Chipmunks 35th Birthday Party and Here's Looking at Me!
"Deck the Halls"
The song is also modified, with lyric changes, for the special A Chipmunk Christmas, sung by just The Chipmunks, and, as an extended version, in the special's soundtrack, sung by The Chipmunks, featuring Santa Claus.
"Everybody Have Fun Tonight"
An abbreviated, modified version, with lyric changes, was also included during the Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Musical tour.
"Girls Just Want to Have Fun" and "Goodbye to You"
Stay the same.
"On The Road Again" also is a song that was modified (that you updated already). Perhaps that page could use the same formatting as "Leader of the Pack."