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  • Up until I first looked up Alvin and the Chipmunks on Wikipedia, after first watching the new series "Alllvin! and the Chipmunks, I always thought Simon was the oldest. Okay maybe not always but I thought Simon was the oldest. Now I see that Alvin is, but it doesn't seem like it to me.

    And it's not just because Simon is the tallest but in the 1980s series, Alvin copied Simon's book report (I only saw that episode once and that was back in 1999 if not later, at least that's the only time I remember watching it, I may have seen it before then.) And I thought Simon did the report the year before and I thought Simon was older and I may have thought a grade level higher than Alvin.

    THE TRUTH, IT BURNS!!! Just giving drama. I don't remember "Grounded Chipmunk" but I guess it is logical that Alvin would be the oldest.

    I honestly still like to think Simon is the oldest and Alvin came second.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought Simon was the oldest. Any of you think the same thing?

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    • Personally I'd avoid Wikipedia when looking for Alvin information (I've seen some strange stuff over there that can linger).

      You aren't the only one to believe Simon is the oldest, based either on height or maturity. It's one of the biggest misconceptions in the franchise. In the 80s series, Simon's five minutes younger than Alvin. In the CGI films, their age is never mentioned, but, in the CGI series, Simon is actually older than Alvin (stated in The Sub when Alvin referred to himself as the "middle child" during the teacher-parent conference with Dave). This fact is perhaps to go along with the perception in the fan base that Simon's the oldest.

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    • Yeah, I was told Wikipedia isn't a very reliable source, well it isn't always and I've seen it for myself. One of my college instructors also told me  Wikipedia gets outdated, or the info on it.

      I didn't think I was the only one to believe Simon was the oldest and I choose to hold on to that belief, though now some parts of me are believing Alvin is so now there's an inner debate going on inside me.

      But I believe Simon is older for the same reason some people (or at least cartoon characters) believe in aliens: because I want to, or choose to.

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    • According to the official website of Toggo Alvin is the oldest chipmunk of the three in the series Alvinnn!!! and the Chipmunks.

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    • Streifenhörnchen wrote:
      According to the official website of Toggo Alvin is the oldest chipmunk of the three in the series Alvinnn!!! and the Chipmunks.

      Yep, that's noted on Simon's page. Regardless though what's stated directly in the series takes precedence over what a website states.

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    • I also think so, just an additional clue...

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    • This is what Alvin says in the episode:

      "Simon has been very troublesome in class. Is there something at home I should know about? I see here that you have three children and are not very nice to the middle on."

      Anyone think maybe he was talking about Simon not Alvin when he said middle child?

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    • Glassbooks wrote:
      Anyone think maybe he was talking about Simon not Alvin when he said middle child?

      When is Dave "not very nice" to Simon?

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    • Never but I think that may have been Alvin stirring up trouble like he said "Is there something at home I should know about?". 

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    • I personally think that the quote from the episode "Grounded Chipmunk" "I have never been alone except those 5 minutes before Simon was born" from Alvin was probably only a joke by the writers. Are there any other pieces of official evidence to prove Alvin's the oldest?

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    • That statement doesn't seem like a joke to me (would be a bad joke personally). This is the only evidence of age in the 80s series I recall (there are still a couple dozen episodes I haven't seen or seen in English). I heard at one time someone mention that there was an age reference in one of the books though I can't confirm that claim.

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